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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #3072
From: <debian-user-digest-request(at)lists.debian.org>
Date: Mon Dec 31 2007 - 12:07:51 EST
debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 3072 Today's Topics: Re: [half solved] sources list not f [ "Douglas A. Tutty"
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:27:18 -0500
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On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 09:13:54AM +0100, Micaela Gallerini wrote:
This doesn't sound like an insult. Based on the package management knowledge base you have demonstrated in this thread, it would seem prudent. Most people aren't comfortable running a hybrid. > Unless you have a need for more recent things, just stick with plain unadaulterated Etch. What's the problem? > > Learn how it works. Etch is very stable when you give it a sources list that is only for Etch. Give it a messed-up sources.list and you get a messed-up system. > No offence for the debian developers, I have no problem with them. Doug.
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:01:30 +0900
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian Install DVD .jigdos out of date? Message-Id: <1199106090.4786.9.camel@localhost>Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi
Can anyone comment on whether the .jigdo files currently published on
cdimage.debian.org and its mirrors for the DVD images of the i386 STABLE
distribution are out of date? I tried to use them yesterday to make an
image of the first DVD (using
Anyone else seen this? Can anyone tell me where I can get an updated .jigdo file / template that will work? And rather more importantly, can anyone tell me why the officially published .jigdo files aren't in step with the archive? Surely this is just going to encourage people to hammer the mirrors for .iso images? Mark
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:13:31 -0500
format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Douglas A. Tutty" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:08 AM > On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 01:08:13PM +0900, David wrote: >> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> >On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 06:05:35PM -0800, Rick Dooling wrote: >> > >> >>I know about Debian Reference and Debian Help site, but I'm more >> >>interested in a list of common how-tos that most people would like to >> >>do after installation, such as add mp3 playing ability, installing >> >>flash, mounting usb drives or ntfs drives and so on, the sort of >> >>things found in Martin's Ubuntu How-To. I know that some work in both. >> >>I guess I'm just curious if a similar thing already exists for Debian. >> >>And if not would it be a useful project to redo the Ubuntu How-To with >> >>an eye toward the Debian user. >> >> >Since all the documentation is already provided on how to do each of >> >these with whatever tools are installed on the user's box, the most >> >important skill for the new Debian user to have is howto find and use >> >the documentation. >> >> Agreed! >> >> And not just documentation. >> I've thought a number of times that the package description aspect of >> the aptitude interface should include the path of the package concerned. >> Also on the Debian site package description and the documentation - >> surely that makes sense. >> >> This would help a newbie get on top of the filing scenario much more >> quickly. >> >> I remember struggling to find exactly where packages lived on my system >> when I would look in a number of places and see packages with similar >> names residing in a couple of them (or more). > > The docs are always under /usr/share/doc/[package name] > apropos > which > locate > find > As a n00b to Debian (though I've used several distributions over the past few years) a lot of these simple things can take quite a while to figure out. For those of you who have been intimately involved and continuously using Debian it is so obvious but to the rest of us - nope. Not all the docs are under /usr/share/doc/[package name], some are under usr/share/[package name] with no apparent rhyme nor reason. Then, everything is gzipped, should the user extract these to their home folder or is there a particular method to read these as they stand? There are a plethora of packages that popup when you search aptitude or the other graphical package manager, which is the most common and easiest to use? should we install everything or? Also getting the package managers to work with other mirrors or the non free or contrib, how is it done without searching for hours through documentation in an often cyclic manner. Then there's the installation manual that gives a brief overview of the installation but few links to go to for additional resources, help etc other than the list. What about using the Rescue modes of the install CD, other than a few short paragraphs there's not much help there. I've discovered a few it's inherent limitations while fixing the messed up grub hd assignments, ended up using a knoppix DVD to do all the fixing and reinstalling of GRUB, after searching for a few hours for solutions. The grub shell won't run from the rescue mode so many of the helpful items are unavailable. As was stated many other disto's have these n00b pages for a quick reference to get us up to speed so that we can start figuring out how to do things on our own. Many n00bs are reticient to post to lists or forums as they often receive negative feed back from some of the more seasoned users who feel like they are answering the same questions time and again. I've yet to find anything on somehow efficiently searching archives for fixes to problems that may have already been solved. Sometimes it's just a matter of using the proper key words. Anyways, my diatribe has gone on long enough, sorry. I'm just trying to elaborate on the need here, not asking for assistance ... yet. :) Dave
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:27:13 -0500
Message-ID: Hello, all: On a recently updated testing system, I went to use 'locate' to find something, and it's not found. Is my system somehow hosed or did 'locate' get, uh, relocated or something? Patrick
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:42:56 +0100
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On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 08:27:13AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
>From NEWS.Debian.gz of findutils: ---8><-----------------------------------------------------------------------findutils (4.2.31-2) unstable; urgency=low
As a hint to consider: If you use testing/unstable you can install apt-listchanges. See for a description apt-cache show apt-listchanges. By default it displays a changed NEWS.Debian.gz. > Patrick
Best regards,
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:45:24 -0600
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Lesley Binks wrote:
Same here. Must be the page. I use FF3 Beta1 + Sid on an Athlon XP 2700. Hugo
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:27:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Plute <plute@sdf-eu.org>
Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:00:07 +0900, David wrote: > Done a lot for open source though.
Yeah, Opera is definitely an odd one. It's always been hard to pin down.
It used to be Adware, but even then it was the exception. It was the only
Adware I can ever remember that really did play straight and never straye=
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:44:23 -0600
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Hi >> >> I have etch installed, regularly updated and running the KDE desktop >> environment. >> >> Using either Konqueror or Iceweasel, I find that Xorg goes into >> overdrive when I access >> this page: http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/login - reporting 92% usage on >> an Athlon XP 3200. >> >> Closing the tab on that page immediately resolves the problem. >> >> I'm wondering (a) if anyone else can repeat this and (b) why it's >> happening at all. >> Can anyone shed some light? >> > > Same here. Must be the page. I use FF3 Beta1 + Sid on an Athlon XP 2700. > > Hugo > > I find that the login screen for Blogger does similar things to my Sid FF2. (FF3 doesn't work properly with Blogspot; fer 'xample, the Blockquote button does nothing.) -- Kent
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:04:53 -0800
From: Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Fw: Re: debian how-to
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Please respond to the list and not to me. -- Raquel
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:58:01 -0500
From: Paul Cartwright <ale@pcartwright.com>
To: Raquel <raquel@thericehouse.net>
Subject: Re: debian how-to
On Mon December 31 2007, Raquel wrote:
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:56:25 +0100
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: iceweasel / firefox segfault after lenny upgrade
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On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:31:47 -0800, Towncat wrote:
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:12:03 +0100
From: pietia <pietia.gr@gmail.com>
To: Lesley Binks <lesley.binks@googlemail.com>
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Iceweasel or Konqueror + Kdm/Xorg turned into a cpu hog?
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Lesley Binks pisze:
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:12:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cannot log in with gdm after lenny upgrade
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:58:03 +0000, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:15:25 -0500 From: charlie derr <cderr@simons-rock.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: gnome won't uninstall because I messed up dpkg by mixing and matching apt-get and aptitude incorrectly (used to be Re: upgrading in sid) Message-ID: <4779078D.2090903@simons-rock.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/door/SidGnomeRefusingToDie It seemed like there was too much output there to want to burden the list with it all (but I thought someone clueful might still possibly catch something I haven't) my working assumption at this point is that last night either manually deleting the deb files for 5 packages (from the /var/cache/apt/archives directory) and/or the fact that immediately after trying that I then tried running "apt-get -f install" (when I'd only been using aptitude previously) created the problem -- but i'm not sure I care all that much about how I mucked things up, it's rather getting things straightened out that's important -- so does anyone have any tricks they'd suggest for how I get all of these uninstalls to complete despite the fact that gconftool-2 is very unhappy and barfs complaining about a lib mismatch problem with gzopen64 (the root of the problem is with libxml2.so.2, so perhaps the package . But at this point I'd rather that I accept that all gnome stuff will be forever broken on this box than have aptitude continue to be borked. If someone has an elegant solution, of course I'm happy to consider that too, but I'd appreciate any thoughts (no matter how outrageous/potentially-destructive). here's a small snip for those who don't want to follow the link at the top: gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error processing capplets-data (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127 dpkg: error processing desktop-base (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. and as I pasted this I realized I ought to see where that file comes from and the package is libxml2 if I try to do "aptitude remove libxml2" the first couple dozen choices to resolve dependencies leave it at its current version (and I'm unsure whether aptitude might actually give me a better choice if i keep clicking "n" -- it does seem to be able to indefinitely suggest new solutions) if I try to upgrade libxml2 I get this (desktop-base (along with shared-mime-info is one of those 5 packages I talked about above (that I incorrectly removed the .deb files from my archives directory) : Resolving dependencies... E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: deskbar-applet epiphany-extensions evince evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server evolution-exchange gnome-mount gnome-power-manager gnome-screensaver gnome-volume-manager nautilus-cd-burner rhythmbox sound-juicer sun-java5-jre yelp Install the following packages: bittorrent [3.4.2-11 (unstable, now)] fam [2.7.0-13 (unstable)] gnome-mime-data [2.18.0-1 (unstable, now)] libavahi-glib1 [0.6.21-4 (unstable, now)] libbonobo2-0 [2.20.2-1 (unstable, now)] libbonobo2-common [2.20.2-1 (unstable, now)] libbonoboui2-0 [2.20.0-1 (unstable, now)] libbonoboui2-common [2.20.0-1 (unstable)] libcamel1.2-10 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libebook1.2-9 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libecal1.2-7 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libedataserver1.2-9 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libgnome-desktop-2 [2.20.2-1 (unstable, now)] libgnome2-0 [2.20.1.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgnomeui-0 [2.20.1.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgnomeui-common [2.20.1.1-1 (unstable)] libgnomevfs2-0 [1:2.20.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgnomevfs2-extra [1:2.20.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgtkhtml3.14-19 [3.16.1-1 (unstable)] libnotify1 [0.4.4-3 (unstable, now)] libpanel-applet2-0 [2.20.2-2 (unstable, now)] libsoup2.2-8 [2.2.104-1 (unstable, now)] libwnck-common [2.20.2-1 (unstable)] libwnck22 [2.20.2-1 (unstable)] libxres1 [2:1.0.3-1 (unstable, now)] python-gnome2 [2.20.1-1 (unstable)] rdesktop [1.5.0-3+cvs20071006 (unstable)] Upgrade the following packages: gtkhtml3.14 [3.14.2-1 (now) -> 3.16.1-1 (unstable)] libgnome2-common [2.18.0-4 (now) -> 2.20.1.1-1 (unstable)] libgnomevfs2-common [1:2.18.1-2 (now) -> 1:2.20.1-1 (unstable)] notification-daemon [0.3.7-1 (now) -> 0.3.7-1+b1 (unstable)] Leave the following dependencies unresolved: libgnomevfs2-0 recommends gnome-mount meld recommends yelp Score is -4309 thanks much in advance for any that are still tuned in -- it's a bit of a muddle, ~c
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:52:52 +0000
From: Steve Kemp <skx@debian.org>
To: drn_temp2@rogers.com
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: debian how-to
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On Mon Dec 31, 2007 at 08:13:31 -0500, drn_temp2@rogers.com wrote:
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:55:23 +0100
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Where did 'locate' go?
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On 2007-12-31 14:42:56 +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) From: T o n g <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Using rsync to download photos from camera Message-ID: <flb29c$r2h$1@ger.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I've been using rsync for many years to synchronize between local directories or remote PCs. I've also successfully used rsync to synchroni= ze photos from my Pentax Optio camera to PC, so that only the newly shot pho= tos are copied. However, I found the very same approach doesn't work for the Canon camera= : $ rsync -nvua /mnt/camera/dcim/*/* .=20 building file list ... done [...] img_0135.jpg [...] $ stat /mnt/camera/dcim/100canon/img_0135.jpg img_0135.jpg File: `/mnt/camera/dcim/100canon/img_0135.jpg' Size: 892127 Blocks: 1792 IO Block: 32768 regular fil= e Device: 811h/2065d Inode: 9817 Links: 1 Access: (0664/-rw-rw-r--) Uid: ( 9999/ tong) Gid: ( 1001/ tong= ) Access: 2007-12-27 00:00:00.000000000 -0500 Modify: 2007-12-27 14:27:10.000000000 -0500 Change: 2007-12-27 14:27:10.000000000 -0500 File: `img_0135.jpg' Size: 885981 Blocks: 1737 IO Block: 131072 regular fil= e Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 166857 Links: 1 Access: (0664/-rw-rw-r--) Uid: ( 9999/ tong) Gid: ( 1001/ tong= ) Access: 2007-12-27 14:27:10.000000000 -0500 Modify: 2007-12-27 14:27:10.000000000 -0500 Change: 2007-12-27 21:53:41.000000000 -0500 I.e., rsync insists to copy again files that have already been copied, although I see no obvious reason why it is doing so. Please comment.=20 Thanks a lot --=20 Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #3072 ************************************************** Received on Mon Dec 31 12:08:29 2007 This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Fri Feb 29 2008 - 13:13:05 EST |
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