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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2008 : Issue 92

Today's Topics: 

  Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?    [ "Felix Cuello"  ]
  Re: OT: Conference Recordings about   [ Sven Hoexter  ]
  Re: DVD image download issue Opera,   [ joseph lockhart  ]
  Re: detecting hdd on usb cable        [ Andrew Henry  ]
  Re: detecting hdd on usb cable        [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Computer won't resume from S3         [ Brian McKee  ]
  Re: No DNS consistency checks in Deb  [ John Hasler  ]
  Re: detecting hdd on usb cable        [ Andrew Henry  ]
  libmime-perl libfile-temp-perl versi  [ Mike Bird  ]
  Re: Goodbye                           [ "=?UTF-8?Q?Nuno_Magalh=C3=A3es?=" < ]
  Re: No DNS consistency checks in Deb  [ Mike Bird  ]
  Re: What is going on in debian-user?  [ David Brodbeck  ]
  Re: OT: Conference Recordings about   [ "Simon Jolle \"sjolle\"" 

Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:59:59 -0200


From: "Felix Cuello" <cuellof@gmail.com>
To: "Michael Yang" <michael.yxf@gmail.com>
Cc: "Debian User List" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?
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Hello Michael,


Do you need help?X

First of all you have to install:



*manpages-dev - Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development
manpages-posix-dev - Manual pages about using a POSIX system for developmen=
t


stl-manual - C++-STL documentation in HTML
libstdc++6-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)*



Then you have to find an editor that fits your requirements. There are tons
of editors... nowadays I'm using an X editor and I prefer multi platform
editors because I work on Windows and Linux and I want to remember just a
unique set of shortcuts. My favourite editors are:



These two works on Linux and Windows


*scite - Lightweight GTK-based Programming Editor
geany - A fast and lightweight IDE


*


Maybe you want to use a bigger editor:


*eclipse - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
eclipse-cdt - C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse*



It is not "straightforward" to configure eclipse to work with C++. however
the cdt plugin for eclipse is REALLY powerful (I've not used it for 1 or 2
years), however it has powerful features like "refactoring".



There are many other editors / IDE like:
*


kdevelop - An IDE for Unix/X11


kate - advanced text editor for KDE


anjuta - A GNOME development IDE for C/C++
*


If you do a small research over the internet you will find much more
editors... that's the list I have in my head right now... but there are man=
y


other editors.



-F=E9lix




On Jan 8, 2008 12:30 PM, Michael Yang <michael.yxf@gmail.com> wrote:


Do you need more help?X
> Hi all:
>
> I'm starting the C++ Developer work on linux, no GUI app involved.
>
> Could you tell me what the tools you are working with?
>
> I'm trying with g++ and vim. Is there a package containing the help doc
> for the library API, like the MSDN on Windows.
>
> Thanks for your helps.
>
> -M.
>

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Hello Michael,

First of all you have to install:

manpages-=

Can we help you?X



dev - Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development<br>manpages-posix-=
dev - Manual pages about using a POSIX system for development<br>stl-manual=


  •   C++-STL documentation in HTML
<br>libstdc++6-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)<=
/b><br><br>Then you have to find an editor that fits your requirements. The=
re are tons of editors... nowadays I&#39;m using an X editor and I prefer m=
ulti platform editors because I work on Windows and Linux and I want to rem=
ember just a unique set of shortcuts. My favourite editors are:
<br><br>These two works on Linux and Windows<br><b>scite - Lightweight GTK-=
based Programming Editor<br>geany - A fast and lightweight IDE<br></b><br>M=
aybe you want to use a bigger editor:<br><b>eclipse - Extensible Tool Platf=
orm and Java IDE
<br>eclipse-cdt - C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse</b><br><br>It is not =
&quot;straightforward&quot; to configure eclipse to work with C++. however =
the cdt plugin for eclipse is REALLY powerful (I&#39;ve not used it for 1 o=
r 2 years), however it has powerful features like &quot;refactoring&quot;.
<br><br>There are many other editors / IDE like:<br><b><br>kdevelop - An ID=
E for Unix/X11<br>kate - advanced text editor for KDE<br>anjuta - A GNOME d=
evelopment IDE for C/C++<br></b><br>If you do a small research over the int=
ernet you will find much more editors... that&#39;s the list I have in my h=
ead right now... but there are many other editors.
<br><br>-F=E9lix<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jan 8, 2008 12:30=
 PM, Michael Yang &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.yxf@gmail.com">michael.yxf@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-l=
eft: 1ex;">
Hi all:<br><br>I&#39;m starting the C++ Developer work on linux, no GUI app=
 involved. <br><br>Could you tell me what the tools you are working with?<b=
r><br>I&#39;m trying with g++ and vim. Is there a package containing the he=
lp doc for the library API, like the MSDN on Windows.
<br><br>Thanks for your helps.<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-M.<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>




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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:06:56 +0100


From: Sven Hoexter <sven@timegate.de>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

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On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 06:28:43PM +0100, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

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> Hi Debian Users
> 
> A while back the CCC Germany [0] released the recordings of
> presentations[1] as iPod compatible, and normal videos.
> 
> Are there Open Source related Conferences with video downloads? Not
> streaming (how to record streaming protocols on harddisk?).
> 
> Would be glad to feed my iPod with Linux presentations.

Not directly iPod compatible but enough for a few month I guess:
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/

Sven

-- 
There's no need for tears, cause there's no need to cry.
That love that you leave will never be denied.
     [ Flogging Molly - Laura ]
Gebuehrenboykott 2008 BU WTAL 
http://www.boykott-wuppertal.de

Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:10:53 -0800 (PST)
From: joseph lockhart <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com>
To: debian-cd@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel
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> Maybe you could use bittorrent?
>=20


that would be possible, but many isp now make it hard
to download large torrent files (in a supposed attempt
to stop movie piracy) so torrent is out, and i admit i
did not check all the mirrors, though stopping at the
same spot is certianly odd

jwlockhart

Registered Linux User #458799
Registered Kubuntu User #19678
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:28:00 -0500
From: "Chris Howie" <cdhowie@gmail.com>
To: "joseph lockhart" <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com>
Cc: debian-cd@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel
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On Jan 8, 2008 1:10 PM, joseph lockhart <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com> wrote:


> > Maybe you could use bittorrent?
>
> that would be possible, but many isp now make it hard
> to download large torrent files (in a supposed attempt
> to stop movie piracy) so torrent is out, and i admit i
> did not check all the mirrors, though stopping at the
> same spot is certianly odd
>


Jigdo?

-- 
Chris Howie
http://www.chrishowie.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers

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On Jan 8, 2008 1:10 PM, joseph lockhart &lt;<a href="mailto:jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com">jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; Maybe you could use bittorrent?<br><br></div>that would be possible, but many isp now make it hard<br>to download large torrent files (in a supposed attempt<br>to stop movie piracy) so torrent is out, and i admit i
<br>did not check all the mirrors, though stopping at the<br>same spot is certianly odd<br></blockquote></div><br>Jigdo?<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Chris Howie<br><a href="http://www.chrishowie.com">http://www.chrishowie.com
</a><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers</a>

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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:37:29 +0100
From: Andrew Henry <adhenry@bredband.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: detecting hdd on usb cable
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Ron Johnson wrote:

>
> ATA converter cable?  Where does the power come from?
>
> I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures.
>
>  

The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :)  It has a
seperate power cable that plugs straight into the wall outlet.

--andrew

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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:48:12 -0600
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To:  debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: detecting hdd on usb cable
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On 01/08/08 12:37, Andrew Henry wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> ATA converter cable?  Where does the power come from?
>>
>> I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures.
>>
>>  
> The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :)


Not really, since I'm not clued in to each and every USB adapter.


>                                                             It has a
> seperate power cable that plugs straight into the wall outlet.


And the HDD circuitry lays exposed to the world?

-- 
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

"I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian
because I hate vegetables!"
unknown



Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:26:54 -0500
From: Brian McKee <map@map-heb.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Computer won't resume from S3
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Hi All

	First post - pretty new to Debian,  less so to linux in general.

	I have a PC here (mainboard IBM 819966U) running Etch that seems to  
hang after sitting idle for a long period of time.
It didn't have this problem previously when using Mandrake 10.1  
although I have changed some of the hardware since then.
It _seems like_ the hard drives are the issue - they don't spin back  
up and any attempt at logging in at the console times out.

It looks like the problem goes away if I change the suspend type to  
S1 instead of S3 in the BIOS, although I thought Linux overrode the  
BIOS when using ACPI?

ACPI seems like a real can of worms right now - is there a good way  
to track down what the issue is?  and if I find it will I be able to  
fix anything?

Suggestions appreciated,

Brian
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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:44:06 -0600
From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?
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Mike Bird writes:

> The single most powerful and most efficient spam filter test is to verify
> DNS consistency.  Judging by the spam now swamping these lists, Debian
> does not employ such a test.


Debian uses SMTP-time anti-spam methods.  For a short time the list was not
going through spamassassin but I believe that the SMTP-time stuff was still
in effect.  The problem has been fixed now, of course.


> Unfortunately, once Debian has accepted this garbage and forwarded it to
> a million victims, its much harder to block.


Spamassassin blocked most of it here.

-- 
John Hasler



Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:08:08 +0100
From: Andrew Henry <adhenry@bredband.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: detecting hdd on usb cable
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Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 01/08/08 12:37, Andrew Henry wrote:
>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> ATA converter cable?  Where does the power come from?
>>>
>>> I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures.
>>>
>>>  
>> The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :)
>
> Not really, since I'm not clued in to each and every USB adapter.

What I meant to say was that the fact that it works at all under windows
should have indicated that power *is* being supplied *somehow*.   That
you didn't know exactly how it was supplied doesn't really matter.  It
has a standard USB connector on one end and a big chunky dual ATA plus
SATA converter at the other end.  Power supplied by separate cable.

>
>>                                                             It has a
>> seperate power cable that plugs straight into the wall outlet.
>
> And the HDD circuitry lays exposed to the world?
>

Yes it is.  This cable is not sold as or intended as an "external hard
drive" solution.  It is a cable for the simply reason of being able to
temporarily attach a hard drive to another system without opening the
working system.

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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:58:54 -0800
From: Mike Bird <mgb@yosemite.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: libmime-perl libfile-temp-perl versioned dependency
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An oddity in Lenny.  Not sure if anything is wrong.

libmime-perl requires libfile-temp-perl >= 0.17.
perl-modules 5.8.8-12 provides libfile-temp-perl.

Yet dpkg and apt-get won't accept perl-modules to satisfy the
requirement and instead install libfile-temp-perl 0.18-1.

Is this correct?  Can you provide a pointer to the spec?

Thanks,

--Mike Bird


Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:21:11 +0000
From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Nuno_Magalh=C3=A3es?=" <morceguinho@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Goodbye
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Ok, goodbye!
Don't forget to write.



Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:07:14 -0800
From: Mike Bird <mgb@yosemite.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?
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On Tue January 8 2008 10:44:06 John Hasler wrote:

> Mike Bird writes:
> > The single most powerful and most efficient spam filter test is to verify
> > DNS consistency.  Judging by the spam now swamping these lists, Debian
> > does not employ such a test.
>
> Debian uses SMTP-time anti-spam methods.  For a short time the list was not
> going through spamassassin but I believe that the SMTP-time stuff was still
> in effect.  The problem has been fixed now, of course.


No, I checked headers during the flood.  Debian was forwarding spam
directly received from hosts with PTR records without matching A records.

--Mike Bird



Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:32:20 -0800
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu>
To: debian-user List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: What is going on in debian-user?
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:23 AM, John Hasler wrote:

> This is true, but there has been a surge in spam on this list  
> recently.  It
> is quite clear that all the spam is not getting through, but I'm  
> seeing
> more here than on other lists. and more than usual.


Yup.  I'd say fully half my spam today came from debian-user.  I'm  
starting to think about unsubscribing; it just is starting to take too  
much work to sort out the wheat from the chaff, and my spam filter  
doesn't seem to work very well on list mail.

Maybe it's time to revisit the idea of allowing only members to post?



Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:34:59 -0500
From: "Chris Howie" <cdhowie@gmail.com>
To: "debian-user List" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: What is going on in debian-user?
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On Jan 8, 2008 2:32 PM, David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> wrote:


> Maybe it's time to revisit the idea of allowing only members to post?
>


Or people could stop talking about it and get back to their lives, since it
was fixed some hours ago.

-- 
Chris Howie
http://www.chrishowie.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers

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On Jan 8, 2008 2:32 PM, David Brodbeck &lt;<a href="mailto:brodbd@u.washington.edu">brodbd@u.washington.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Maybe it&#39;s time to revisit the idea of allowing only members to post?<br></blockquote></div><br>Or people could stop talking about it and get back to their lives, since it was fixed some hours ago.<br clear="all"><br>
-- <br>Chris Howie<br>http://www.chrishowie.com<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers</a>

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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:45:35 +0100
From: "Simon Jolle \"sjolle\"" <urandomdev@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics
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On 01/08/2008 07:06 PM, Sven Hoexter wrote:

> Not directly iPod compatible but enough for a few month I guess:
> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/


Thank you. It's a great archive about Debian related topics. Are there
other more general Open Source and Linux?


> Sven


cheers
Simon
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:38:26 +0100
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ethernet card not found during etch-installation
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On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 22:15:37 +0100, Carsten Fortmann wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 08:32:40PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 11:11:16 +0100, Carsten Fortmann wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > > I tried to install debian 4.0 rc2 on a dell xps m1330 notebook.
> > > When the install script scans for the network device
> > >  I get an error
> > > message, saying that no ethernet device is found, only a firewire device
> > > and asks me weather i want to use this.
> > > i say no and now comes a list with lots of ethernet drivers, i choose 
> > > tg3, bcause my ethernet card is a Broadcom (C) NetLink BCM5906M 
> > > fast ethernet PCIExpress (rev 02) (that's what i get from lspci | grep
> > > Broadcom in my already installed ubuntu).
> > > however, this does not help, i'm allways redirected to the screen that
> > > tells me, that no ethernet card is found.
> > > i go to the shell then and 
> > > ~ # lspci | grep Broadcom
> > >  and voila,
> > > 
> > > 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corp. Unknown device 1713 (rev 02).
> > > 
> > > Why is the card not recognized correcly?
> > 
> > It seems that support for the 5906 series was added to the tg3 driver on
> > 2006-09-27 [1]. Etch ships with the 2.6.18 kernel, which was released a
> > few days before that date [2]. My guess is that you will need a newer
> > kernel or at least a newer version of the driver.


[...]


> Hi Florian,
> thank you for your response.
> Anyway, this was not the solution. I downloaded the image with kernel
> 2.6.21 from
> http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.21/etch-custom-0720.iso
> 
> Now, coming to the nic part to the installation, I was presented two
> ethernet cards to chose from.
> eth0 Ricoh unknown device  (did not know that i have one ...)
> and
> eth1 Broadcom unknown device 1713 
> 
> I tried to configure both of them manually and also specified the dns
> server. usually, install then get's the correct hostname via dns. not in
> this case. so i guess, the correct drivers are still missing.
> Maybe I'll try the 2.6.23 kernel tomorrow, just to find out.


Do you see any messages related to the tg3 driver in the syslog or the
dmesg output? Can you "modprobe -v tg3"?

It seems that Kenshi's images have the old usr/share/misc/pci.ids, which
might explain why it is still referred to as "unknown device 1713".
However, this should not keep the 2.6.23 version of the tg3 driver from
recognizing the card since it has its own list of PCI-IDs.

I am starting to suspect that your problem might be caused by missing
firmware. AFAIK, all binary firmware blobs were recently removed from
the version of tg3.c that is distributed by Debian. (The kernel.org
version of tg3.c has about 850 additional lines, mostly hex chunks.)

-- 
Regards,            | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |



Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 21:55:06 +0200
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics
Message-ID: <20080108195505.GC17972@think.homenet>
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On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:45:35PM +0100, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

> On 01/08/2008 07:06 PM, Sven Hoexter wrote:
> > Not directly iPod compatible but enough for a few month I guess:
> > http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/
>=20
> Thank you. It's a great archive about Debian related topics. Are there
> other more general Open Source and Linux?


BBC has made a documentary about Linux and Open Source.

Regards,
Andrei
--=20
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:31:08 +0100
From: "Simon Jolle \"sjolle\"" <urandomdev@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On 01/08/2008 08:55 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> BBC has made a documentary about Linux and Open Source.


Hi Andrei

Where can I download this movie? With Google I saw that the documentary
is called "Code Breakers"


> Regards,
> Andrei


cheers
Simon
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Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:20:22 +0000
From: Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Time clock software
Message-ID: <m0vc55xiig.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk>

Martin Kenneth Lopez <kenneth@tektonlabs.com> wrote:

> I have a little problem, I been testing a php open source (php based) 
> software for time controll, like for clock in and clock out. I look and 
> I found PHP timclock, but so far doesnt work very well. Does anyone 
> knows any software like this? Any help will be great. Thanks in advance


What do you actually want to achieve?
Chris

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