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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2008 : Issue 242

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my  [ Bob McGowan  ]
  Re: Strange behaviour of K3B          [ joseph lockhart  ]
  Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my  [ Gaudenz Steinlin  ]
  g++ missing                           [ Marc Auslander 
  Re: problem with wireless encryption  [ Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com ]
  Re: problem with wireless encryption  [ Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com ]



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:50:23 -0800


From: Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>,


        debian-powerpc <debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my laptop faster?
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Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> I apologize for the fairly primitive question. But I have been fairly curious as to the advantages of compiling the most recent kernels.
> 
> As I understand, the new kernel has a new scheduler (CFS). Haven't seen much benchmarks but the early ones I have seen showed some fairly decent performance gains.
> 
> Next, I am using Debian Etch on a old 500MHz PPC system. Thus, if there any performance improvements, they probably would be noticeable on old system like this.
> 
> And finally, there should be no risks in compiling a new kernel right? If I am not mistaken, I can choose (at start-up) which one to boot from.
> 
> Actually one more thing, any benefits to doing this? Besides the geek satisfaction that all of us get from compiling a new kernel.
Do you need help?X

Well, the primary advantage to rolling your own is that you can 
customize the kernel for your hardware.



Generic kernels include drivers for all sorts of things, most of which 
you don't have.



This can reduce the size of the kernel, which can translate into faster 
operations, as well as reduced space needed to hold it (and the modules 
you build, if any).


> 
> Thanks,
> Amit
> 
> 
-- 
Bob McGowan

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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:57:09 -0500
From: "Jimmy Wu" <jimmywu013+debian@gmail.com>
To: "Debian users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: compiz + xfce4 on stable (etch) [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]
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On Jan 30, 2008 5:07 PM, Jimmy Wu <jimmywu013+debian@gmail.com> wrote:

> Secondly, is there some sort of compiz settings gui in debian etch?  I
> couldn't find one, and the only thing I have available is
> gconf-editor, which is usable but difficult.  For example, I wanted to
> turn off the wobbly plugin but I have yet to find the gconf entry that
> will let me do that.


Would it be worth it to set up a mixed stable/testing system to use
the testing version of compizconfig-settings-manager?  I am thinking
of either doing that or sticking with gconf.

-- 
Jimmy Wu
Registered Linux User #454138



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:48:04 +0000
From: Stephen Allen <sda2@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Camtasia alternative for linux
Message-ID: <20080131204804.GA12816@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG>
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:58:37PM -0800, sobriquet wrote:

> 
> Hi.
> Is there something equivalent to Camtasia (screen recording software)
> on the windows platform for linux?
> Preferably, it should yield movies of a level of quality that compares
> to Camtasia.
http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/

I have no experience with it.

You might also try a Google on "Screencast software".

-- 
Regards,
S.D.Allen - Toronto



Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 08:30:05 +1100
From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Testing, LDAP Directory, Kernel general protection
	errors
Message-ID: <20080131213005.GB9419@samad.com.au>
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 11:57:01AM +0200, Krasimir Ganchev wrote:

> I am using the current Debian Testing as a distribution tree and have
> recently updated the system. Since that last update I continue regularly
> receiving the following errors:

>=20

> Jan 31 10:18:19 lila kernel: [ 44.844774] exim4[3153] general protection
> eip:b785f4ec esp:bfba2ff8 error:0
> Jan 31 10:18:42 lila kernel: [ 67.911708] apache2[3583] general protection
> eip:b7bf44ec esp:bfe746b8 error:0

>=20

> Something seems to make apache2 and exim4 to sigfault after that particul=

ar

> update and I do suspect that it has something to do with libldap2
> libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap and in general with daemons or programs which


openldap have moved to gnuTLS in version 2.4, which I believe has recently =
hit=20
the repo's which also includes a change to libnss-ldap, libpam-ldap, sudo-l=
dap=20
and the libldap libraries.  I ran into some similar problems when I upgrade=
d my=20
slapd by accident and it brought in all these other packages and by stealth=
=20
brought in gnutls.

I would suggest checking the versions of these ldap related packages and ma=
ybe=20
rolling back to the 2.3 versions see if that fixes stuff.

although 2.4 has a lot of advantages over 2.3


> need to fetch user data from my ldap directory which otherways seems to w=

ork

> correctly.

>=20

> I found that related topic (
> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=3D47584&pid=3D20529=

2&st=3D0&#entry205292)

> posted a long time ago and tried rebuilding my ldap database but it didn't
> help.

>=20

> Something interesting is that even the Segmentation Fault notice daemons
> startup and keep working and there doesn't seem to be any problem with the
> apache2 but as it comes to exim4 those segfault errors seems to bring some
> confusion while delivering mail to remote smtp servers (threads exit with
> error code and even after successful delivery the messages remain frozen
> within the exim4 spool).

>=20

> So if you guys have any ideas or suggestions your help is appreciated.

>=20

> ~Cheers~


--=20
"The enemy understands a free Iraq will be a major defeat in their ideology=
 of hatred. That's why they're fighting so vociferously."

	- George W. Bush
09/30/2004
first presidential debate, Coral Gables, Fla.

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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:15:45 -0800 (PST)
From: joseph lockhart <jwl_andlovesaidno@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour of K3B
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> > I am trying to burn a Data DVD+R
> <snip>
> > When I hit the burn button, the dialog box that
> pops up normally has a=20
> > drop down box which says the type of media
> detected.  This remains=20
> > steadfastly saying no media loaded regardless of
> whether I have or=20
> > not - meaning I cannot start the burn.
> >=20
> > Any suggestions

>=20
google the problem, this is a know problem that occurs
occasionally with k3b (it kind of forgets where your
drives are) there are some kernel moduals that can be
set to load on startup that usually takes care of the
problem (you'll have to google to find them, i cannot
recall which ones off of the top of my head


> Did you get an answer to this?

>=20

> The only thing I got is.....

>=20

> Are you sure your drive handles DVD+R?

>=20

> Any new drives should handle DVD+ and DVD-, but
> older drives may not,
> the older the drive the more likely it would do DVD+
> or DVD- not both.


that is also a possibility :)

jwlockhart

Registered Linux User #458799
Registered Kubuntu User #19678
this user is penguin powered


      ___________________________________________________________________=
_________________
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.=20
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Don't know where to look next?X

Date:  Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:14:18 -0500
From:  Haines Brown <brownh@hartford-hwp.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  fetchmail authentication error
Message-ID:  <87fxwdu50l.fsf@teufel.hartford-hwp.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii

For some time I've been running fetchmail and getting the warning:
"upgrade to TLS failed." I was told I could ignore it, for fetchmail can
only use TLS (Transpost Layer Security protocol) if it's compiled with
SSL support, which my binary version does not support. I'm using
fetchmail 6.3.6.1etch1. 

I've also had the error: "Server CommonName mismatch: localhost !=
pop.hartford-hwp.com", but this didn't keep fetchmail from working.

I suspect the From: line of this message has some odd garbage, and this
may be related to my authentication problem, but I've no idea how to
proceed to repair it. 

For no obvious reason, fetchmail failed to retrieve mail and times out
after five minutes. I got:
 
  fetchmail: Server CommonName mismatch: localhost != pop.hartford-hwp.com
  fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate
  fetchmail: timeout after 300 seconds waiting for server pop.hartford-hwp.com.
  fetchmail: socket error while fetching from
             brownh@hartford-hwp.com@pop.hartford-hwp.com
  fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)

In looking into this certificate verification problem, I find that it
can be ignored, but I went ahead and did:

  $ mkdir ~/.certs
  $     openssl s_client -connect imap.example.com:993 | \
	> sed -ne '/-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-/,/-END CERTIFICATE-/p' 
	> .certs/imap.pem
	gethostbyname failure
	connect:errno=0
  $     c_rehash ~/.certs

This creates empty file: ~/.certs/imap.pem

I next add the line to .fetchmail.rc:

	sslcertck sslcertpath $HOME/.certs

I finally do: c_rehash 

The problem is that my ~/.certs/imap/pem is empty. I assume there
should be something in it.

$ fetchmail -cvv
fetchmail: 6.3.6 querying pop.hartford-hwp.com (protocol POP3) at Thu 31 J
an 2008 02:15:34 PM EST: poll started
Trying to connect to 209.237.134.152/110...connected.
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Hello there.
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Here's what I can do:
fetchmail: POP3< STLS
fetchmail: POP3< TOP
fetchmail: POP3< USER
fetchmail: POP3< LOGIN-DELAY 10
fetchmail: POP3< PIPELINING
fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< IMPLEMENTATION Courier Mail Server
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> STLS
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Begin SSL/TLS negotiation now.
fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Courier Mail Server
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: localhost
fetchmail: Server CommonName: localhost
fetchmail: Server CommonName mismatch: localhost != pop.hartford-hwp.com
fetchmail: pop.hartford-hwp.com key fingerprint: 27:33:38:C0:92:FF:CE:37:E
2:BC:70:7C:25:24:E5:03
fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate
14813:error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate 
verify failed:s3_clnt.c:894:
fetchmail: pop.hartford-hwp.com: upgrade to TLS failed.
fetchmail: Unknown login or authentication error on brownh@hartford-hwp.co
m@mymail.myregisteredsite.com
fetchmail: socket error while fetching from brownh@hartford-hwp.com@pop.ha
rtford-hwp.com
fetchmail: 6.3.6 querying pop.hartford-hwp.com (protocol POP3) at Thu 31 J
an 2008 02:15:34 PM EST: poll completed
fetchmail: normal termination, status 2

It seems as if I've enabled certificate verification so that the error
can no longer be ignored. 

-- 
 
       Haines Brown, KB1GRM

	 
        



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:31:17 -0500
From: Paul Cartwright <ale@pcartwright.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: ksudoku segfault
Message-Id: <200801311631.17363.ale@pcartwright.com>
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up until yesterday I was able to play this game, today I can't. a terminal 
session just shows this:
$ ksudoku
Segmentation fault
$

any clues or ideas? running Debian Lenny, updated as of just now. Today I got 
about 18 updates. It didn't work before or after todays updates.
-- 
Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux user # 367800
Registered Ubuntu User #12459



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:49:46 +0000
From: Stephen Allen <sda2@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Camtasia alternative for linux
Message-ID: <20080131214946.GB12816@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG>
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 08:48:04PM +0000, Stephen Allen wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:58:37PM -0800, sobriquet wrote:
> > 
> > Hi.
> > Is there something equivalent to Camtasia (screen recording software)
> > on the windows platform for linux?
> > Preferably, it should yield movies of a level of quality that compares
> > to Camtasia.
> 
> http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/

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Excuse me, but it looks like I double pasted; It should of course be;

http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/

-- 
Regards,
S.D.Allen - Toronto



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:21:52 -0600
From: Kevin Buhr <buhr+debian@asaurus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: su doesn't work "Authentication failure"
Message-ID: <87d4rheiv3.fsf@buddha.mad.asaurus.net>
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Kevin Buhr <buhr+debian@asaurus.net> writes:
>

> If your version of the "login" package is the latest official Etch
> version 1:4.0.18.1-7, then "md5sum /bin/su" should give:

>

>      1381ae1ac77b512258657b096522bb6a  /bin/su


Sorry.  That was sloppy of me.  The above hash is for the amd64
architecture.  The md5sum for the i386 architecture should be:

   c80fc747e24fa8bfa099cbef0bfb926f  /bin/su

-- 
Kevin Buhr <buhr+debian@asaurus.net>



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:08:41 -0500
From: "Yi Shi" <shiyi1@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: FreeNX on Sparc
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Hi All,

I have a Debian Linux 4 running on Sun Ultra 60 machine. I want to install
FreeNX on it so I can access the desktop remotely. I understand there is no
binary available for Sparc machines. Could someone send detailed
instructions on how to install it?

Thanks in advance!
Yi Shi

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Hi All,<br><br>I have a Debian Linux 4 running on Sun Ultra 60 machine. I want to install FreeNX on it so I can access the desktop remotely. I understand there is no binary available for Sparc machines. Could someone send detailed instructions on how to install it?<br>
<br>Thanks in advance!<br>Yi Shi<br>

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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:35:31 +0100
From: Gaudenz Steinlin <gaudenz@debian.org>
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org,
	debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my laptop faster?
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:50:23PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
 

> Well, the primary advantage to rolling your own is that you can customize the kernel for your 
> hardware.
> 
> Generic kernels include drivers for all sorts of things, most of which you don't have.
> 
> This can reduce the size of the kernel, which can translate into faster operations, as well 
> as reduced space needed to hold it (and the modules you build, if any).


Do you have any numbers that kernel with unneeded hardware options not
compiled in actually run faster? I would be very suprised by this as the
additional code just never runs. AFAIK all applicable processor
optimizations for powerpc are already activated in the stock Debian
kernels.

The space argument is theoretically true but I don't think it's relevant on 
any actual powerpc laptop which is able to run 2.6.24.

IMHO the main reason to compile ones own kernel is to test new
features. Either things that are beeing actively developed and therefore
not in the latest released kernel (or not with all the features) like
the b43 wireless driver or if you want to activated experimental
features that are not enabled in the Debian kernel for safety reasons
(like preempt which caused problems on powerpc in the past). 

Gaudenz


-- 
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Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
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Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:59:23 +0900
From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com>
Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>,  debian-powerpc <debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my laptop faster?
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Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com> writes:

> Generic kernels include drivers for all sorts of things, most of which
> you don't have.

>

> This can reduce the size of the kernel, which can translate into
> faster operations, as well as reduced space needed to hold it (and the
> modules you build, if any).


The main reason I build a custom kernel is because the generic debian
kernel packages are way too bloated (with tons of modules) to fit on my
small root partition (144 MB)....  :-(

In my kernel I just build wired-in drivers for those devices I have, and
basically no modules at all.

[It can be a pain figuring the right drivers etc to include the first
time though...]

-Miles

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Date: 31 Jan 2008 17:43:17 -0500
From: Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: g++ missing
Message-ID: <87k5lp39bu.fsf@aptiva.optonline.net>
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A while ago I upgraded to etch from sarge.  I now discover the g++ is
missing.  aptitude doesn't show the package.  my sources.list points
at

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main  
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main  

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main


what am I doing wrong?


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:22 -0200
From: Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com.br>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: problem with wireless encryption
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On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 17:29 -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> The problem with WPA is the vendors sometimes implement it in their own way. That is why there a lot incompatibility issues with it.
> 
> Why not just use WEP? I am sure it offers a good enough level of encryption for your needs.
> 
> Sorry I am not of much more help.
> 
> Amit


Amit,

thank you very much for your suggestion. I tried WEP and it works fine.
I am running WEP then in the meantime until solve the WAP problem.

Regards

Marcelo

-- 
Marcelo Chiapparini
chiappa@oi.com.br



Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:34:37 -0200
From: Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com.br>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: problem with wireless encryption
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On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 11:34 +0000, Jose Rodriguez wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:48:37 -0200
> Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@oi.com.br> wrote:
> 
> > My problem is with encryption (WPA).
> 
> This is what I have:
> 
> /etc/network/interfaces (relevant lines to wireless link only):
> 
> #DHCP doesn't work very well with wpa here, so I use static
> #addresses. Also, it's a way of taking out the equation some
> #variables.
> iface eth2 inet static
> address 192.168.11.3 #my address
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.11.1 #my router's address
> 
> wireless-essid "my ssid"
> up wpa_supplicant -ieth2 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Bw -Dwext
> down killall wpa_supplicant
> allow-hotplug eth2
> 
> 
> My wpa_supplicant.conf is just the output of wpa_passphrase (man
> wpa_passphrase). Run it with your ssid and passphrase and copy the
> output to wpa_supplicant.conf, so it looks like this:
> 
> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf:
> 
> network={
>         ssid="my ssid"
>         #psk="whatevercrossesyourmindthebiggerthebetter"
>         psk=bigstringoflettersandnumbersgeneratedbasedonyourpassphraseandssid
> }
> 
> 
> Put the psk (the second and real one) in your router's settings.
> That should be it. Check that you can get authentification from
> the router by running wpa_supplicant like this:
> 
> wpa_supplicant -ieth2 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -d
> 
> Once you convince yourself that it can connect to the router kill
> it and bring your interface up the usual way.
> 
> I hope it works for you.


Jose,

thank you very much for your suggestion. I will try the static address
method and let you know.

Regards

Marcelo


-- 
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chiappa@oi.com.br

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