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debian-user-digest Digest V2008 #337

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2008 : Issue 337

Today's Topics:

  Re: reliable editting of any PDF fil  [ "Kushal Kumaran"  ]
  Re: lm_sensors does not support my b  [ "Patrick Zaloum"  iptables?             [ "Adrian Levi" 

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:59 +0530
From: "Kushal Kumaran" <kushal.kumaran+debian@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: reliable editting of any PDF file

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On Feb 13, 2008 3:19 AM, Micha <michf@post.tau.ac.il> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:19:38 -0500
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
> > michael wrote:
> >
> > > I'm struggling to find software to edit a PDF file. Firstly, I'm wary of
> > > using a graphics editor to do the job and pdfedit [1] seems to reject
> > > many of the PDF files I've just tried because they are "linearised"
> > > according to the bug report [2]
> > >
> > > So what joy have others had, or is this the Holy Grail [3]?
> > >
> >
> > I think you are looking at it the wrong way. PDF is supposed to be an "end
> > format". It is not designed for re-editing the documents. The practical
> > solution to this problem is that, you should get hold of the document that
> > was exported into pdf, edit the original document and export it back to pdf
> > again.
> >
> > For example, if you are writing a .tm file and exported it into .pdf. Then
> > you need to get the .tm file, edit it and then export it again.
> >
>
> Yes, but for me for example it would be very useful if I could add notes to
> papers I download to reference in my work (academics, it's what you are
> supposed to do ;-). I don't have access to the originals (with pdf's you rarely
> do actually, people give you the pdf in the first place to make sure that you
> see it properly, not to edit it).
>
> I would have been happy if there was something that could do highlighting,
> notes, lines and really ecstatic if it could actually do equations ...
>
> thought of writing something like that once but never got the time to dig in.
>

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/okular

Experimental package, and requires kde4, though. And I've never used it myself.

-- 
Kushal

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:26:23 +0100 (CET) From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: [OT] Re: What am I missing without mutt? Message-ID: <slrnfr4vrh.eda.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <ekalin@gmail.com>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Yes, the .............. are pointless (pun intended). Well, they do
> > have a purpose, but they are not everyday essentials. Arabic speakers
> > feel very comfortable speaking Hebrew, I should imagine that Farsi is
> > similar.
>
> Not really, Arabic and Hebrew both belong to the Semitc family of
> languages. Farsi, on the other hand, despite being written with a
Apologies to those uninterested, but I'd like to state that this whole thread has been wildly entertaining and educational, in my opinion. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Please, don't Cc: me.

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:42:59 -0500 From: "Patrick Zaloum" <pzaloum@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lm_sensors does not support my board with w83627ehf Message-ID: <2d205ee30802122142i27638647w69c637e879922601@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16960_31678951.1202881379151" ------=_Part_16960_31678951.1202881379151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Final Thought - Addendum to step 6... DO remove lm-sensors package, or change the Makefile to install to /usr. It will otherwise install to /usr/local and you will have duplicates. On Feb 12, 2008 11:26 PM, Patrick Zaloum <pzaloum@gmail.com> wrote:
> Problem SOLVED!
> So for anyone using a new motherboard with Etch facing the same error many
> people were:
> FATAL: Error inserting w83627ehf
> (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627ehf.ko): No such
> device
> The steps i took to successfully get it to work:
>
> 1. Upgrade to kernel 2.6.22 from etch-backports (
> http://www.backports.org)
> 2. Download lm-sensors source code version 2.10.5 (
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Download)
> 3. apt-get install libsysfs-dev bison flex
> 4. untar lm-sensors tar.bz2
> 5. make user && make user_install
> 6. I did not apt-get remove lm-sensors, i installed over it. You
> choose.
> 7. sensors-detect
> 8. modprobe those ones
> 9. run sensors
>
> Hope i could help somebody!
>
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2008 10:59 PM, Amit Uttamchandani <atu13439@csun.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:00:24 -0500
> > "Patrick Zaloum" <pzaloum@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Actually that's precicely what I just did, i'm running 2.6.22-3 from
> > > backports now, but so far i'm not any better for trying. Now when i
> > run
> > > sensors i get the following error:
> > >
> > >
> > > w83627dhg-i2c-9191-290
> > > ERROR: Can't get adapter or algorithm?!?
> > >
> > >
> > > So new question: What do i do now? :/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I guess you could try a newer kernel. Check the changesets between
> > kernel versions and you will see more details on what has changed in that
> > specific driver. Could be that you need a newer driver.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Amit
> >
>
>
------=_Part_16960_31678951.1202881379151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Final Thought - Addendum to step 6... DO remove lm-sensors package, or change the Makefile to install to /usr. It will otherwise install to /usr/local and you will have duplicates.<br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 12, 2008 11:26 PM, Patrick Zaloum &lt;<a href="mailto:pzaloum@gmail.com">pzaloum@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div>Problem SOLVED! </div> <div>So for anyone using a new motherboard with Etch facing the same error many people were: <div class="Ih2E3d"><br>FATAL: Error inserting w83627ehf (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627ehf.ko): No such device</div></div> <div>The steps i took to successfully get it to work:</div> <ol> <li>Upgrade to kernel 2.6.22 from etch-backports (http://www.backports.org)</li> <li>Download lm-sensors source code version 2.10.5 (http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Download)</li> <li>apt-get install libsysfs-dev bison flex</li> <li>untar lm-sensors tar.bz2</li> <li>make user &amp;&amp; make user_install</li> <li>I did not apt-get remove lm-sensors, i installed over it. You choose.</li> <li>sensors-detect</li> <li>modprobe those ones</li> <li>run sensors</li></ol> <div>Hope i could help somebody!</div> <div> <div></div> <div class="Wj3C7c"> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div><br>&nbsp;</div> <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 12, 2008 10:59 PM, Amit Uttamchandani &lt;<a href="mailto:atu13439@csun.edu" target="_blank">atu13439@csun.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:00:24 -0500<br>&quot;Patrick Zaloum&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:pzaloum@gmail.com" target="_blank">pzaloum@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>&gt; Actually that&#39;s precicely what I just did, i&#39;m running 2.6.22-3 from<br> &gt; backports now, but so far i&#39;m not any better for trying. Now when i run<br>&gt; sensors i get the following error:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; w83627dhg-i2c-9191-290<br>&gt; &nbsp;ERROR: Can&#39;t get adapter or algorithm?!?<br> &gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; So new question: What do i do now? :/<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br></div>I guess you could try a newer kernel. Check the changesets between kernel versions and you will see more details on what has changed in that specific driver. Could be that you need a newer driver.<br> <br>Good luck,<br><font color="#888888">Amit<br></font></blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_16960_31678951.1202881379151--

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:00:23 -0800 From: "Kelly Clowers" <kelly.clowers@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: reliable editting of any PDF file Message-ID: <1840f6970802122200l37beaa9dqb5103d8424acf8fd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Feb 12, 2008 9:27 PM, Kushal Kumaran <kushal.kumaran+debian@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/okular
>
> Experimental package, and requires kde4, though. And I've never used it myself.
Interesting, I thought the reason Evince didn't have annotations was that poppler did not support it yet, but it obviously has at least some support, as poppler is Okular's pdf lib. I guess the Gnome guys just haven't added the UI for it. Cheers, Kelly Clowers

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:51:53 +0000 From: Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir@cohens.org.il> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What am I missing without mutt? Message-ID: <20080213085152.GR8028@pear.tzafrir.org.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 11:38:04PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-02-10 19:14:56, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> > Thanks for the tip, Michelle. Tell me, how does one configure Konsole
> > to use it? It can be seen here that libfribidi is installed, yet the
>
> Examples:
>
> Package: acon
> Maintainer: Ahmed El-Mahmoudy <aelmahmoudy@users.sourceforge.net>
> Version: 1.0.5-4
> Description: Text console arabization
> The function of acon is to display arabic text from right to left,
> and process it to change the letter shape according to its position
> in the word.
IIRC acon is something for the linux console only. I also recall it was quite buggy. At least last time I tried it (around 2001). Were there any newer versions? It has gone through a rewrite (acca?) at arround 2004 or so, but that stalled too. Anybody has better details?
>
> and general UTF-8
>
> Package: dynafont
> Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki <dexter@debian.org>
> Version: 1.0-23.7
> Description: Module for konwert package which loads UTF-8 fonts dynamically
> This is a tool which allows displaying texts containing thousands of different
> characters. It switches console to UTF8 mode and loads required fonts
> dynamically. It is recommended to use this tool with filterm(1) tool,
> i.e. by executing 'filterm - dynafont' command or 'filterm - 512bold+dynafont'
> if you are not using framebuffer.
> .
> The tool works with UTF8-compatible applications, i.e. lynx(1).
> There are problems with 8-bit only applications.
Again, this is needed for the Linux console, which is limited with a character map of 512 characters. Or you can use the font LatArCyrHeb-16 . -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzafrir@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's tzafrir@cohens.org.il | | best ICQ# 16849754 | | friend

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:26:17 +0000 From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: reliable editting of any PDF file Message-Id: <1202894777.4037.25.camel@amd64.local> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 06:53 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:49:19PM +0200, Micha wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but for me for example it would be very useful if I could add notes to
> > papers I download to reference in my work (academics, it's what you are
> > supposed to do ;-). I don't have access to the originals (with pdf's you rarely
> > do actually, people give you the pdf in the first place to make sure that you
> > see it properly, not to edit it).
> >
> > I would have been happy if there was something that could do highlighting,
> > notes, lines and really ecstatic if it could actually do equations ...
> >
> Have you tried the latest version of inkscape? It can import pdf's
which version are you using? I just tried version 0.44.1-1 (from Etch) and it failed to input my first test PDF, giving on the cmd line an error /home/mkb/work/timings_CMU_allDynamic_16sections.pdf:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found %PDF-1.4 M.

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:50:12 +1000 From: "Adrian Levi" <adrian.levi@gmail.com> To: "Debian User List" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: ipchains -> iptables? Message-ID: <d3826e640802130150w1564b94bv63d53d2ac76e60cc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6414_25938707.1202896212101" ------=_Part_6414_25938707.1202896212101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 13/02/2008, Zach <netrek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2008 7:20 PM, Adrian Levi <adrian.levi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The topology of chains to tables is fundamentally different, In chains
> > a packet that is to be forwarded must also go though the input and
> > output chains. Under tables this packet only has to traverse the
> > forward table, input and output tables only refer to packets destined
> > for and from the firewall machine.
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> Ah I see so we're dealing with apples and oranges here.
Unfortunately yes. Someone probably has written a script but I wouldn't know where to find it.
> > I am happy to post my tables script and you can use that as the basis
> > of yours if you like.
>
> Thank you, that would be great.
No worries. Mine was based heavily on MonMotha's firewall script, Modified to suit my purposes and needs. - You will need to edit it as well but that should be trivial. 2 network cards, plact the IP adresses of your clients to access the net in the ALLOWED_INET_CLIENTS variable and your LAN_IP range, set your network interfaces and comment out the port forwarding stuff. This script supports ingress and egress filtering. It will drop any packets from or to the Internet with private IP addresses. Only open the holes you need and you will be safer. This script is a little slow for me to load because of all the modprobes at the start. As soon as I got it working I dropped work on it never got back to tidy it up. But it should give you an idea on what you can do. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? <erno> hm. 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