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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2008 : Issue 863

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Network FUBAR                     [ Hendrik Boom  ]
  Re: Debian crash randomly             [ "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jordi_Guti=E9rrez_H ]
  Re: OT (slightly) swap limits         [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: OT (slightly) swap limits         [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  /dev/sdb1 !           [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: installing scanner canon          [ Shams Fantar  ]
  Re: installing scanner canon          [ Thierry Chatelet  ]
  unison on testing and stable          [ Magnus Pedersen  ]

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:39:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Network FUBAR 

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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:05:41 -0400, Andrew Reid wrote:

> One: Device name. Maybe the interface isn't "eth0" anymore,
> because of the hardware change. This seems improbable to me,
> because you said the interface was up and in the routing table.
> I *have* seen a system come up with only one network card,
> and with it being named "eth1", don't know what causes that.

It oncehappened to me. It turned out that the firewire port on my graphics card was being assigned eth0.

  • hendrik

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:46:31 +0300
From: Micha <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian crash randomly 

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500
"Jordi Guti=C3=A9rrez Hermoso" <jordigh@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> wrote:
> > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely
> > to crash.

>=20

> Then why does it crash more in my anecdotal and unscientific experience?
>=20

> - Jordi G. H.

>=20
>=20

I seems to me that you are the only one that complains that it always crash= es,
so either it's your hardware or your experience that's problematic ;-)

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:47:54 -0500
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jordi_Guti=E9rrez_Hermoso?=" <jordigh@gmail.com> To: Micha <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
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Subject: Re: Debian crash randomly 

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On 30/04/2008, Micha <michf@post.tau.ac.il> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500

>

> "Jordi Guti=E9rrez Hermoso" <jordigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>

> > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <mockingbird@earthlight.co.nz> wrote:
> > > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more li=
kely
> > > to crash.
> >
> > Then why does it crash more in my anecdotal and unscientific experienc=
e?
>
> I seems to me that you are the only one that complains that it always cra=
shes,
> so either it's your hardware or your experience that's problematic ;-)
Can we help you?X

Then you haven't noticed that this thread was started by Mond, who was also complaining of frequent and unpredictable crashes?

  • Jordi G. H.

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:09:00 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT (slightly) swap limits 

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:00:51PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 04:45:05PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> >
> > Being in an interview loop looking for employment, I find I am asked
> > questions I never considered, for example: How much is enough swap?
> >
>
> Rephrase the question. Ask what the intended use of the machine is,
> what response times the users expect, how much real RAM is there, and
> what applications/services will run off the machine.
>
> Then tell the interviewer how each parameter you've asked about would
> influence your decision on how much swap was enough.
>
> How much is enough? As much as the system needs to run and not kill
> processes due to lack of memory (real + swap).
>
> I've run machines with 1Gig or more RAM with NO SWAP. I've also run
> machines with 4Gig of RAM and 16Gig of swap (BIG datasets).

IIRC, historically, the 2X ram thing comes from UNIX where in the event of a crash, a crash-dump of memory goes into the swap partition, also UNIX does/did heavy paging out of pieces of idle software to free up memory for use by running progams, much more agressively than Linux.

Doug.

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:12:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Marcelo <marcelolaia@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Notebook Latitude D630 don't shutdown properly after update 

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> He has said twice that the .22 kernel does not solve the problem.

Yes! .22 does not solve the problem.

> More likely, check your /etc/fstab to make sure it's not thinking that
> there is something to umount there.

marcelo@laia:~$ cat /etc/fstab 

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#                
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
/dev/sda1       /               ext3    errors=remount-ro 0       1
/dev/sda6       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/sda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
marcelo@laia:~$

> If a system doesn't halt (x) seconds after shutdown begins, eventually
> init cracks it and kills everything vuilently.

Yes!!!! After shutdown was started, the shutdown process stop and after a few seconds there is a power off suddenly (anything kills all remain process vuilently).

Here is a screenshot of the exact moment when my system was poweroff: http://www.divshare.com/download/4384152-861

Thanks

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Marcelo

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:12:30 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT (slightly) swap limits 

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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 05:13:28PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:  

> For an enterprise quality server where reliability matters I fully
> agree. Yes. You want twice your ram. But you also want to set
> vm.overcommit_memory=2 for reliability.
 

> By default Linux will overcommit memory allocation. The malloc(3)
> library can't fail. The fork(2) system call can't fail. But this
> means that if there isn't enough memory in the future that Linux may
> need to kill something. That works similarly to a 'kill -9', the
> process simply stops running. There is no ability of the process to
> log the event to a log file. It just disappears.
>
 

> Now after learning about this I always disable overcommit. This
> restores a traditional Unix process model. Programs that call for
> memory (through the malloc() interface or fork(), program level
> interfaces that use memory) will see failures if there isn't enough
> memory. This is a Good Thing as it allows applications to handle
> issues and log them generally deal with the problem.
 

> Summary: So in my mind an Important Aspect of system configuration is
> Reliability and in order to get Reliability it is needed to turn off
> Linux kernel memory overcommit in order to avoid the dreaded and often
> misguided OOM Killer. This is the important point but it affects the
> amount of virtual memory required by a system and that in turn affects
> the need for having swap space configured. With overcommit turned off
> then the rule for twice the amount of RAM is again required. (In
> other words you don't need swap / VM configured equal to twice RAM if
> vm.overcommit_memory=0 as is the Linux default. But then you must
> deal with the OOM killer behavior.)
>
> [ Sidebar: This is how you disable overcommit on a system. This can
> be done temporarily with the following command.
>
> sudo sysctl -w vm.overcommit_memory=2
>

Confused? Frustrated?X

Since debian is supposed to be trying to be reliable (while still being useable for almost anything), I wonder why this isn't the debian default (with appropriate documentation as to why, the need for more swap than other distros, and how to revert back to Linux default if needed)?

Doug.

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:19:02 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files 

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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 08:00:58PM +0100, peter green wrote:  

> For potato I doubt you have much hope except for the last point release
> (which is availible on archive.debian.org).

I have one CD (CD1?) of potato (IIRC 2.2r2) that came with my Debian GNU/Linux Bible. If that is of any help, I could make an ISO, split it up and perhaps email it to you a few MB at a time (I'm on dialup). You would then just assemble the file with cat in the correct order (I'd number the files 1,2, etc).

Doug.

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:28:37 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 ! 

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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 04:22:16PM +0800, paragasu wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:41:45PM +0800, paragasu wrote:
> > > Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it second hand
> > because
> > > my bios only
> > > support 2GB. That hard disk is quite rare nowadays. And if it dies, now
> > > might be the right
> > > time for the hard disk but not the right time for me though. =p
> >
> > You may wish to consider an industrial-quality compact flash drive. The
> > CF adapter plugs in just like a drive and the I-Q CF cards come with a 5
> > year warranty and testing by OpenBSD-types (who do a lot of embedded
> > devices using CF cards) shows that for many uses they are very reliable.
>
> can you give a url of the company who sell this?

Well, the adapters are made by many vendors, even startech. I haven't used a CF card myself so don't know. Try google for CF and misc@openbsd.org, or try the openbsd website and look for a link to who mirrors the mailing list. Warning: only as a __last__ resort, send a message to misc@ after temporarily subsribing. That group doens't tolerate in a friendly manner people asking who can't show that they looked everywhere else first.

You may also want to check the openbsd website's on-line man page and do an apropor for CF or compact flash. Also check the openBSD FAQ. The FAQ and the man pages constitute the vast majority of the documentation and are __very__ detailed.

Doug.

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:36:09 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: "Nokia 6120 classic" and Internet connection with laptop 

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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 02:42:35PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I have had Etch on my IBM ThinkPad 570 and use my "Nokia 6120 classic"
> for the Internet connection via O2 (Germany). Now after an upgrade it
> is not more working and my config was wiped out... (I even do not know,
> what has wiped out the config since the whole thing is strange)
>
> Ond of course stressed and stupid I am, I have NO backups of the config.
>
> Again, my harddisk crashed and not I run again Sarge which let me not
> connect to the Internet anymore...
>
> Can anyone tell me, how to get my Internet connection back and which
> module I must load to get my Nokia recognized since "lsusb" show nothing
> under Sarge. And since my Laptop has no CD/Floppy, I can currently not
> install Lenny fron scratch since the partitopn is to small to make a
> "dist-upgrade".
>
> Note: I need my Mobile Internet connecion urgently since my work
> depends on and I can not go every day in an Internet cafe to
> send my messages. (This is, WHY you receive my messages in
> batch two times per week)

<nose tweak>
> Ond of course stressed and stupid I am, I have NO backups of the config.
:)
<\nose tweak>

I've never even seen a nokia (my cell phone weighs about 5#)

To be sure I understand: your Etch laptop had its hard drive crash after an update and your old hard drive has Sarge on it and you can't install Etch or Lenny on it since your laptop doesn't have a CD or floppy and without Etch or Lenny you don't have internet since Sarge can't see your cellphone.

And you have no backups.

Questions:

Do you have Etch install media (e.g. CD) and do you have access to a computer with a CD and a USB (and a USB stick)? You could make a USB-stick install to run on your laptop.

Doug.

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:40:42 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Force process to swap? 

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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:28:53PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/29/08 22:04, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:06:25AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 04/24/08 10:09, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >>> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>>> On 04/24/08 01:34, Rich Healey wrote:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging
> >> I use "swap" in the generic sense, but really mean "page". Does
> >> Linux even *do* process swapping?
> >
> > I've never seen Linux swap out idle processes.
>
> I'm surprised. Seems to me that an idle process and it's allocated
> memory would be the *perfect* candidates to be swapped out. And
> anthropomorphized vm systems might say, "I need RAM, and you're
> 5,000 pages are the least recently used, so I'll just push you on
> out to disk to make room for actively used data."

Sure it would make sense; other Unix's do, but I've never seen Linux swap out, e.g. idle gettys or bash, or even idle exim4s (which would make sense for a dial-up box that only uses exim during daily email checks and cron runs).

Doug.

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:51:42 -0400
From: "Damon L. Chesser" <damon@damtek.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
CC: Igor <k.igor.k@gmail.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Replace Ubuntu with Debian 

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Jordi Guti=E9rrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 29/04/2008, Igor <k.igor.k@gmail.com> wrote:
> =20

>> Howdy, Jordi!
>>    =20
>

> Igor, is that you? If so, you changed your Gmail address.
>

> =20
>> The laptop is XPS M1330.
>>    =20
>

> Ah, nice. If I had waited a while, a couple of months, I could have
> bought one of the same ones. Oh, well. I'm happy enough with the one I
> have.
>

> =20
>> That's why I'd prefer not to do a clean wipe.

Can we help you?X

>>    =20
>

> One of the biggest reasons I did a clean wipe was that I wanted to
> encrypt the hard drive and felt morally insulted by that Dell rescue
> partition that's designed to wipe your hard drive and reinstall
> Ubuntu. How very Windows.
>

> =20

>> I've already changed the apt sources list to point to Debian >> repositories. So far, none of the extra packages that I installed hav= e 
>>  complained. But, I have yet to do a dist-upgrade, so I don't know if
>>  that will introduce any problems (one step at a time :-).
>>    =20
>

> I would be very surprised if dist-upgrading (or full-upgrade, as
> aptitude now calls it) would work seamlessly. Heck, nowadays it
> usually doesn't even work between Ubuntu releases for which it's
> supposed to work, why would it work for going from Ubuntu to Debian?
>

> =20
>>  I just noticed an unfortunate circumstance, though. Dell installed a
>>  32-bit OS on my 64-bit machine. In my opinion, that is a rather dumb
>>  thing to do.
>>    =20
>

> Yeah, they did it to me too. I guess the only reason to run a 64bit
> environment is for heavy number crunching which most users don't care
> about, plus, 64bits would mean that Dell would have to do some
> additional juggling to get stuff like Adobe's non-free player working.
> Does Ubuntu have nspluginwrapper?
>

> =20
>> It also means that I might have to also figure out a way
>>  to migrate to a 64-bit environment.
>>    =20
>

> The only issue I had when installing 64bit Debian was with running
> Adobe's flash player. But yeah, if you want 64bits, you're gonna have
> to do a clean install. You can't dist-upgrade to a different
> architecture (at least, not without more trouble than it's worth).
>

> - Jordi G. H.
>
>

> =20

Don't forget about the fans! There is no i8kutils for amd64. I don't=20 know if your xps boxes needs the i8kutils to make the fans go around,=20 but my Vostro sure does.

--=20
Damon L. Chesser
damon@damtek.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:01:37 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Force process to swap? 

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On 04/30/08 09:40, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:28:53PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

>> On 04/29/08 22:04, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:06:25AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 04/24/08 10:09, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>>>>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/24/08 01:34, Rich Healey wrote:
>>>>> 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging
>>>> I use "swap" in the generic sense, but really mean "page".  Does
>>>> Linux even *do* process swapping?
>>> I've never seen Linux swap out idle processes.
>> I'm surprised.  Seems to me that an idle process and it's allocated
>> memory would be the *perfect* candidates to be swapped out.  And
>> anthropomorphized vm systems might say, "I need RAM, and you're
>> 5,000 pages are the least recently used, so I'll just push you on
>> out to disk to make room for actively used data."

>
> Sure it would make sense; other Unix's do, but I've never seen Linux
> swap out, e.g. idle gettys or bash, or even idle exim4s (which would
> make sense for a dial-up box that only uses exim during daily email
> checks and cron runs).

Hmmm, I see the communication disconnect. You are correct that it won't swap out whole processes in one fell swoop. But an idle process on a memory-constrained system could *effectively* see itself swapped out a few pages at a time, as the kernel sees that those pages are haven't been used in a while.

  • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:09:19 +0200
From: Shams Fantar <sfantar@snurf.info>
To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: installing scanner canon 

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Shams Fantar wrote:
> Hi,

>=20

> I'm trying to install my scanner canon canoscan 3000F. Few years ago, I
> wasn't able because there was no driver for this scanner, now, it
> exists. And I've found this[1], and the scanner is in this page, so,
> that confirms what I said.
>=20

> - Xsane doesn't find my scanner : "no devices available".
> - # lsusb : Bus 003 Device 006: ID 04a9:2215 Canon, Inc. CanoScan
> 3000/3000F/3000ex
> - # sane-find-scanner
> found USB scanner (vendor=3D0x04a9, product=3D0x2215, chip=3DGL660+GL64=
6?) at
> libusb:003:006
> - My /etc/sane.d/canon.conf[2]
>=20

> I think I have to install the driver of the scanner, but, how to do ? I
> don't find it in the CD-ROM for installing this scanner (the cd only
> works under windows, of course but I read that if xsane doesn't find th=
e
> scanner, we need to look for the driver on the CD-ROM...right ?). And I
> didn't find information in the sane documentation.
>=20
>=20

> [1] :
> http://www.ubuntupt.org/wiki/index.php?title=3DLista_de_scanners_reconh=
ecidos_pelo_Ubuntu_7.04#Canon
> [2] : http://snurf.info/sfantar/scanner/canon.conf
>=20

> Any ideas?

>=20
> Regards,

Hey !

Don't you have any ideas?

I don't advance upon my problem...

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:18:07 +0200
From: Thierry Chatelet <tchatelet@free.fr> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: installing scanner canon
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On Wednesday 30 April 2008 17:09:19 Shams Fantar wrote:
> Shams Fantar wrote:
> > Hi,

Hi;
Are you in scanner group?
T

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:24:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Zoho Vignochi <zoho.vignochi@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:31:59 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 04:01:22PM +0000, Zoho Vignochi wrote:

>> Hello:
>>=20
>> I have one of the famous Eeepc's and I performed a hardware hack in
>> order to expand internal drive storage space. So I have the internal
>> ssd card (/ dev/sda) 4 GB and a usb stick soldered to one of the usb

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>> ports and held internally (/dev/sdb) 32 GB.
>>=20
>> So I used lvm to install. I have a boot partition /dev/sda1 which is
>> 255M (a bit overkill I know) and the rest of sda is formatted for lvm
>> with the volume group "system" which contains a root, usr, var
>> partitions.
>>=20
>> On /dev/sdb I set up a volume group "data" which contains swap, tmp,
>> home all on encrypted lvm.
>>=20
>> The problem is that during the boot process uswsusp wants to access th=
e 
>> swap partition to resume from but the crypto device is not yet
>> available. Is there a kernel commandline option to mount the crypto
>> device earlier? I suppose I will have to make a device node in
>> /dev/.static/dev becuase it needs to mount before udev starts. Is this
>> correct?
>>=20
>>=20

> I do this, though not on lvm. I have written a little script that
> unencrypts the swap partition and I've put that script into the initrd
> so that it runs before uswsusp tries to start up. It mounts and reads =
a
> key from my sd card and uses that key to unlock the swap partition.
>=20

> Essentially, you need to activate the encryption and lvm early on,
> though I don't think you need a static device node to do it. you need
> dev-mapper up, but I think it comes up really early and shouldn't be a
> problem.

>=20
> If you need more details, I can send you my scripts later when I'm on m=
y
> laptop.

>=20
That would be very helpful!=20

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:26:49 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT (slightly) swap limits 

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Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> Being in an interview loop looking for employment, I find I am asked
> questions I never considered, for example: How much is enough swap?
>
> Simple, right? Try answering it. Used to be the limit was 2G
> files/partitions with up to 8 partitions total. This does not apply
> anymore: I have seen customers with 32G of swap.
>
> Not wanting to talk about what they did with 32G of swap, but I am
> trying to find documentation for the limits and the rules now.
>
> For example: 2xRAM (or 1.5) is not considered valid any more is it? If
> you have 64G of ram, you need 128G of swap. But in truth I don't know
> and I am not finding much on google (lots covering the 2G OLD limit).
> What I want is documentation so I am not working off of opinion (read
> religious belief).
>
> Got any links you want to share?
>

http://ck.wikia.com/wiki/Faq

says the 2xRAM rule is just plain wrong.

Hugo

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bug <recvfrom@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: libpam_umask setup 

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Hi,

I've installed libpam-umask 0.04, made sure all umask statements were either already commented out, or did so for the following files:

  1. /etc/login.defs
  2. /etc/profile
  3. ~/.bash_profile
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My /etc/pam.d/common-session file has the following two lines: 

session required        pam_unix.so
session optional        pam_umask.so umask=027

But when I login in, I still get umask 022. What step am I missing?

TIA! -r

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:37:57 +0200
From: Magnus Pedersen <bofhenator@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: unison on testing and stable 

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I'm using unison to keep my Docs, my music and my pics in sync between my laptop, my desktop and my server. The laptop and the desktop are running testing and the server is running stable. With the latest upgrade of unison in testing the version in stable and testing no longer want to speak to each other. My solution so far is to keep the version from stable on my testingmachines, but is there anywhere where I can find newer versions of unison for stable?

/Magnus

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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:46:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Sylvain Le Gall <gildor@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: unison on testing and stable 

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Hello,

On 30-04-2008, Magnus Pedersen <bofhenator@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using unison to keep my Docs, my music and my pics in sync between
> my laptop, my desktop and my server. The laptop and the desktop are
> running testing and the server is running stable. With the latest
> upgrade of unison in testing the version in stable and testing no longer
> want to speak to each other. My solution so far is to keep the version
> from stable on my testingmachines, but is there anywhere where I can
> find newer versions of unison for stable?
>

Ask yourself the question in the other way: is there a way to find an older version in testing?

Answer:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/unison2.13.16

This package should enter testing in 7 days. But you can download it directly and install it by hand. It will also work fine.

Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall

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