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Re: linux-ipsec: Pluto/IKE policy configuration?

From: Henry Spencer <henry(at)spsystems.net>
Date: Wed Dec 23 1998 - 11:42:15 EST


> I ran into a snag when trying to esablish isakmp via pluto to a Cisco
> IOS router. It would appear from watching this from the router that all
> the proposals that pluto makes contain 3des for the ike SA , des is not
> proposed. Is this correct?

At the moment, this is correct. Users really need to have more control over such policy matters, and that is on our to-do list, although it may be a little while before it gets addressed.

DHR might possibly be able to suggest a way to fudge it for testing. We are reluctant to provide a default configuration with single-DES enabled, especially for something as crucial as key exchange, since single-DES no longer offers meaningful security. (If your competition is seriously interested in eavesdropping on you, they can and will build a DES-cracker machine -- see doc/des.)

> >...Eventually this will be moved into a security policy database with
> >reasonable expressive power and more convenience.
>
> If I'm on the right lines here - whereabouts in the code is this
> hardwiring?

It's in pluto/spdb.c, but detailed instructions for fudging it should come from DHR rather than me -- I don't remember the details well enough to confidently give precise instructions.

> ...Presumably the design for such a policy database would be
> intended to include such things as choice of des/3des for ike, along
> with authentication policies such as certs vs pre-exchanged rsa key vs
> pre-shared secret etc?

Yes, that's the general intention... although do note that when it comes to choice of encryption algorithm, single-DES is such a poor choice that we've had repeated discussions of whether it belongs in our code at all. So far it's still there as an ESP transform, mostly because it is officially mandatory, and we will support it for IKE at such time as IKE becomes properly configurable, for the same reason.

However... if IETF ever downgrades DES support to optional (presumably after blessing a stronger replacement), it would not surprise me if we decided to stop shipping it. Our project management feels strongly about giving users real security, not just a crumbly plastic imitation.

Do you need help?X

> I read some discussion of rsa-sig being considered as a next stage - if
> and when this is available I will have facility to test this also
> against network equipment vendors.

Great!

                                                          Henry Spencer
                                                       henry@spsystems.net
                                                     (henry@zoo.toronto.edu)
Received on Wed Dec 23 12:13:21 1998

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