Re: [Hipsec-rg] [Hipsec] I-D on using HIP for P2PSIP:

From: Philip Matthews <philip_matthews(at)magma.ca>
Date: Tue Jun 26 2007 - 09:42:13 EDT

Hi Martin:

Very interesting!

Can you share any details on your prototype? Is it similar to our proposal?

• Philip

On 26-Jun-07, at 03:58 , Martin Stiemerling wrote:

> Hi Philip,
>
> Just to let you know: We have a P2PSIP prototype already using HIP
> for building and running the overlay.
>
> Martin
>
> Am 18.06.2007 um 21:49 schrieb Philip Matthews:
>
>> Folks:
>>
>> I would like to call your attention to a draft that was just
>> submitted to the P2PSIP working group.
>> This document proposes to use HIP as the basis in forming a P2PSIP
>> overlay network.
>>
>> The draft is a high-level draft that is trying to sell the P2PSIP
>> group on the idea of using HIP, rather than a detailed design. So we
>> simply sketch the ideas in a broad fashion, rather than giving
>> precise details. However, the authors still feel the draft will
>> likely be of interest to the HIP community.
>>
>> In particular, what is likely of greatest interest are the four HIP
>> extensions that the draft proposes:
>> * Defining how to route HIP packets though intermediate peers in an
>> overlay;
>> * Adding a new HIP packet type (which we call the Data packet) to
>> transport upper-layer protocols
>> in the overlay when the transmission path goes through one or
>> more intermediate peers;
>> * Extending the procedures for establishing a HIP association to the
>> case where a peer wants to join an overlay;
>> * Proposing alternative transport stack for protocols where running
>> over ESP is undesirable (e.g. Secure RTP transport of voice packets).
>>
>> The authors would be very interested in getting feedback from the HIP
>> community on these proposed extensions.
>>
>> From a HIP prospective, what is interesting is that this approach
>> provides a motivation for people to use HIP, because it is using HIP
>> in a "closed" system: a peer-to-peer overlay.
>>
>> The document was just submitted on the weekend, and had not yet
>> appeared in archives when this was written.
>> Until it does, you can get a copy at:
>> http://www.magma.ca/~philip_matthews/draft-matthews-p2psip-hip-
>> hop-00.txt
>> or an HTML version at:
>> http://www.magma.ca/~philip_matthews/draft-matthews-p2psip-hip-
>> hop-00.htm
>>
>> - Philip
>>
>> [I am cross-posting this to the HIP RG list, but after discussion
>> with Gonzalo, we think that the HIP WG mailing list is the best place
>> to discuss the details of the proposed HIP extensions. However, if
>> you have any general comments on the suitability of HIP for P2PSIP,
>> or general comments on the draft, then those comments are best
>> directed to the P2PSIP list.]
>>
>>
>>
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