Pantek Library
Hosting Provided By
CybrHost
High Speed Hosting

Re: [PERFORM] 8.2 Autovacuum BUG ?

From: Chris Browne <cbbrowne(at)acm.org>
Date: Fri Aug 31 2007 - 13:46:09 EDT


pkalva@livedatagroup.com (Pallav Kalva) writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:

>> Pallav Kalva  writes:
>>
>>>     We turned on autovacuums on 8.2 and we have a database which is
>>> read only , it is basically a USPS database used only for address
>>> lookups (only SELECTS, no updates/deletes/inserts).
>>>
>>
>>
>>>     This database has about 10gig data and yesterday autovacuum
>>> started on this database and all of a sudden I see lot of archive
>>> logs generated during this time, I guess it might have generated
>>> close to 3-4gig data during this period.
>>>
>>
>> Probably represents freezing of old tuples, which is a WAL-logged
>> operation as of 8.2.  Is it likely that the data is 200M transactions
>> old?
>>

> If nothing changed on these tables how can it freeze old tuples ?

It does so very easily, by changing the XID from whatever it was to 2 (which indicates that a tuple has been "frozen.")

I don't imagine you were wondering how it is done - more likely you were wondering why.

"Why" is to prevent transaction ID wraparound failures.

> Does it mean that once it reaches 200M transactions it will do the
> same thing all over again ?

It won't freeze those same tuples again, as they're obviously already frozen, but a vacuum next week may be expected to freeze tuples that are roughly a week newer.

> If I am doing just SELECTS on these tables ? how can there be any
> transactions ? or SELECTS considered transactions too ?

Every query submitted comes in the context of a transaction. If there wasn't a BEGIN submitted somewhere, then yes, every SELECT could potentially invoke a transaction, irrespective of whether it writes data or not.

Do you need help?X

If you submit a million SELECT statements, yes, that could, indeed, indicate a million transactions.

-- 
let name="cbbrowne" and tld="cbbrowne.com" in name ^ "@" ^ tld;;
http://cbbrowne.com/info/nonrdbms.html
How much deeper would the ocean be if sponges didn't live there? 

---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?

               
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Received on Fri Aug 31 14:06:20 2007

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Sun Oct 07 2007 - 12:24:28 EDT


Contact Us  Legal Notices  Order Services Online 
Pantek Home  Privacy Policy  IT news  Site Map  Pantek Library