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Re: Tracking a (potential) abuser?

From: Jason Powell <Jason.Powell(at)cchmc.org>
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 15:21:21 EST

Some suggestions:

1.) Manually reset passwords on all privileged (i.e., more than a "Domain User"). Positively identify every individual requesting a password change on those accounts.

2.) Reset the local administrator password on all machines (Can this be done with AD?), ensure that only "Domain Admins" are members of the Local Admins group.

3.) Mercilessly reduce the number of Admins in your domain.

4.) Inspect each global group for permissions and membership.

5.) If you can localize the misuse/abuse to a few workstations or servers, make judicious use of Spectorsoft Pro (monitoring software).

JP

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Jason A. Powell, CISSP
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Children's Hospital Medical Center
Information Services Security
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>>> "Ralph Los" <RLos@enteredge.com> 02/05/03 10:25AM >>>
Hi all,

        First time poster, long time lurker.

        I'm doing some work for a school which has approx. 1,000 users (students + staff) sharing the same Win2k-AD network resources. Windows
permissions, shares and passwords are obviously not strengthened (why would
they be, that would make this easy!) so there are suspicions that students
are running rampant on this network. I was asked to come and investigate
for signs of mis-use, abuse, or "hacking". What I DID find was a student's
directory which had *explicit deny* for the administrators group to all
rights. I had to go and "take ownership" to get a view into this student's
directory.

        Now, this is as close to a "smoking gun" as I have. I'm trying to
"catch these student(s)" in the act but it's difficult because, as I said to
the principal, how do I distinguish between an administrator using their
account and a student who's guessed their password??

        The real request here is this: How would one go about analyzing a
live system like this? I can't arouse too many suspicions as I was asked to
catch the person/people involved in this activity. Where would you start?
(I've turned on Windows object auditing pretty heavily, but that's a monumental task sifting through all that data!!). Any real-world experience
or suggestions for a Win2k network would be most-appreciated!

/Ralph/



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