Re: RPAT - Realtime Proxy Abuse Triangulation

From: <tcleary2(at)csc.com.au>
Date: Mon Dec 30 2002 - 20:59:17 EST

Greg Barnes said:

>And this is precisely because it is illegal. I'm not a lawyer

Greg,

IANAL. But back when I was a police officer in the UK, the definition of burglary was when a person "enters property as a trespasser with the intent to commit an arrestable offence <other stuff dropped>"

Now there are definitions for what property is, what trespass is and what an arrestable offence is ( as well as intent ) and if it fits, one could arrest for burglary.

And believe me ( because I had jobs that fit this description ) going into an unlocked house and looking around is trespass ( civil tort ) not burglary ( crime ), unless the accused admits he was going in to steal/damage/commit arson etc. etc.

Applying analogies for laws which anyone above a three year old can get away with by simply not telling the truth ( and don't get me started about how hard it is to prove "handling stolen goods" ) to anything on the Internet is not sane practice.

Move on, nothing to see, here.

Regards,

tom.

P.S. I am also grateful to Jay for the philosophy lesson. Any pointers to sites on formal logic? -tcy

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