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Re: Vulnerability scanners

From: Alvin Oga <alvin.sec(at)Mail.Linux-Consulting.com>
Date: Thu Mar 27 2003 - 16:31:10 EST

hi ya

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Jeff Williams @ Aspect wrote:

> Let's assume that you're talking about 256 IPs (based on Qualys' published

their "mail server scanning" is pointless ??? ( when we tried it out )

  • just a bunch of dictionary names for your-domain.com

vulnerability scanning and pen-testing ...

  • you can do quickie tests.. ( few minutes - couple hours )
  • you can and SHOULD do it every time something changed ( incremental costs should be minimal )
  • you should go back and see what other vuln tests you or your other hired testors didnt check earlier... ( few days, few weeks )
  • repeat round and round
    • most of the scanning can be automated
    • think one can also apply all the scriptkiddie scripts automatically ??
    • automation is the key ... people will get tired of running the same repeatative tests

> effort for someone (probably more to generate a very nice report and

you do need a qualified testor ... newbies wont knwo what to look for and how to test it ..

Do you need help?X

i'd say a good vulnerability scanner and pen-testor would run $150K in salaries + double it for insurance, benefits, office space, phones, lab, PCs, test archives, etc

	plus probably an additional knowledgeable secretary to type up
	pretty reports and attachements

"good"  == they can find the obvivious holes... in a matter of minutes
	- break into any pc running sendmail earlier than 8.12.8
	- break into any apache w /443 left on
	- break into wireless sites w/ telnet/ftp/pop3 left on inside
	... blah .. blah ..

c ya
alvin

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