Re: Question about opportunities for Americans outside the US

From: Intrusion Detector <idetector(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Aug 01 2003 - 17:46:51 EDT

Bruno,

I think you are way off base mate!! Here's some food for thought:

1. US expertise remains a viable option especially for international or multi-national firms in any country;
2. Given the above, the IT jobs are just as or more challenging than in the USA because of: 2.1 Lack of experienced expertise in the IT field in the native countries; 2.2 Interconnectivity to global networks; 2.3 Regulations or legislative requirements, or lack thereof, in certain markets throughout EU (enter

security and controls);

• It is within an employers best interest to make the job interesting and challenging for an "expat" given the cost to bring an "expat" to Market;
• While I agree that many EU and non EU countries give free education for their nationals, the graduates lack the open market available in the USA thus significantly decreasing their ability to gain signigifant experience and expertise in the IT environment;
• Keep in mind also that there is "subsidy" if not housing is taken care of by the employer thus making overseas employment a more attractive and viable option for expats/ Note: I use the "Expat" terminology as anyone that is not a national can be considered an Expat.
• Oh yes. as this is a security focused forum ..... the EU has a significant shortage of technical expertise in this area. Although as time progresses that will decrease. Who knows even you may be considered an expert one day!!!
• Here's one that will hit home: SPAIN is just now getting "into" technology and I have seen many job opportunities for "expats" in Spain, in and out of technology!!!

  8 ... Oh what the hell 1 though 4 is sufficient enough to get my point across, and its' the weekend. I guess you are wondering where I get my information ... Well to be very honest, I am an expat ( to the USA no doubt) but more importantly I travel extensively throughout Europe for my employer, and as such get to "see" the market FIRST HAND!!! Oh yes, I still speak ONLY English and have been doing this for ... let's see now .. 10 or so years. But I am learning French now though. .. who knows I just may pick up Spanish next. You see TECHNOLOGY is a UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE!!! Did you hear me?? Great.

  Have a great weekend and don't be so sinister matey!!

  • "Bruno G. San Alejo" <bgonzalez@polar.es> wrote:
    >
    > I may have some good advice here. If the job
    > maket is tight in the
    > US, it's even tighter outside the US. I live in
    > Spain, but got my
    > education in the US and worked there for a while. My
    > advice is "Don't
    > come around here". IT Jobs are really low-paid and
    > living expenses are
    > roughtly the same than in the US because of the Euro
    > thing (1 Euro=1
    > Dollar). Job market is tighter in the US because
    > people don't go abroad
    > since they don't speak any languages, and the
    > schools here produce a lot
    > of graduates (and many people are educated at a M.S.
    > level since almost
    > everybody can attend college here).
    >
    > And the most important thing, jobs around here
    > are not, I repeat
    > NOT, as interesting as in the US. Most IT jobs here
    > are the equivalent
    > of working in McDonnals even if you graduated in a
    > French cooking school.
    >
    >
    >
    > m0use wrote:
    

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